Saturday, March 15, 2008

Crisis Pregnancy Centers Having to Tell People They Lie? Hells Yes!

crisis pregnancy centers Crisis pregnancy centers really strike a chord in me that makes me sometimes rant to the boyfriend about how unfair it is that they are even able to “practice” pregnancy “options” with the women that go to them for help out of desperation and whom are bullied by so-called professionals to make the decision that they want women to make while completely disregarding the feelings of women seeking help.

I recently came to find out that Maryland feels the same way!

The Maryland state senate is considering a bill requiring crisis pregnancy centers to issue a disclaimer stating that the information they give to women in search of options and counseling, is not accurate. The same bill is being considered in New York as well as in West Virginia. Examples of misinformation that crisis pregnancy centers have been giving out are:

  • Abortions lead to breast cancer.
  • Abortions lead to infertility.
  • Abortions lead to mental illness.

All of the above are completely untrue and should not be given to women seeking abortion services as facts when they are simply taking advantage of emotional women and brainwashing them by throwing around personal morals that are fabricated as far as medical accuracy goes.

87% of the clinics studied in a July 2006 came out to misinterpret and grossly exaggerate medical facts.

I do not believe that crisis pregnancy centers like this should not be able to practice. They should not be able to brainwash desperate women and guilt them into believing that abortion is not the answer to their unwanted pregnancy when an abortion is what they are seeking. Not to mention, Planned Parenthood clinics who support women and support the informed choices that women are able to make on their own–Imagine that!

I was recently watching the fourth season of The L Word, which I am absolutely addicted to and love unconditionally, and in the very first episode of the fourth season, it shows exactly what happens at these so-called women’s clinics. To watch the episode, which I highly suggest, you can by going here. In fact, I think that everyone should watch The L Word, so here is a link to all five seasons which you can watch online. (clickclickclick)

I really hope that Maryland gets this bill passed, the truth about these clinics must come out and I could not support Maryland enough in this bill.

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  1. ACM says:

    I can’t believe they even have to think about whether or not these centers should tell women they lie.

  2. ACM says:

    I can’t believe they even have to think about whether or not these centers should tell women they lie.

  3. Agreed. This is absurd.

  4. Agreed. This is absurd.

  5. Jenny says:

    Actually…although abortions do not lead to mental illness (that’s just fucked up) they DO lead to mental instability. But it depends on the person and how they handle it. I wouldn’t know how to explain that, but I’ve seen it happen. The rest…Breast Cancer? Please!!

  6. Jenny says:

    Actually…although abortions do not lead to mental illness (that’s just fucked up) they DO lead to mental instability. But it depends on the person and how they handle it. I wouldn’t know how to explain that, but I’ve seen it happen. The rest…Breast Cancer? Please!!

  7. ceejay1968 says:

    I just typed a long comment about this and then windows crashed, so I’ll just send you my blog entries about this issue and ask what you think. I’m still fighting the school board on this. I can’t believe they did this.

    http://nolaradfem.blogspot.com/2008/02/me-going…

    http://nolaradfem.blogspot.com/2008/02/letter-t…

  8. ceejay1968 says:

    I just typed a long comment about this and then windows crashed, so I’ll just send you my blog entries about this issue and ask what you think. I’m still fighting the school board on this. I can’t believe they did this.

    http://nolaradfem.blogspot.com/2008/02/me-going-to-war-with-school-board.html

    http://nolaradfem.blogspot.com/2008/02/letter-to-school-board.html

  9. Robmarie says:

    Wow — how unprofessional of these people! Lies, lies, and more lies from self-righteous assholes from all walks of life (religious, sociological, cultural, political…) is the only “support” women faced with this difficult decision are receiving. I applaud Maryland for taking a step towards improving the situation.

  10. Robmarie says:

    Wow — how unprofessional of these people! Lies, lies, and more lies from self-righteous assholes from all walks of life (religious, sociological, cultural, political…) is the only “support” women faced with this difficult decision are receiving. I applaud Maryland for taking a step towards improving the situation.

  11. 360 Degrees says:

    I just read ceejay’s blog, as a follow-up to this post. It never ceases to amaze me the causes schools become involved in and the means they use to support said causes.
    This $1 for t-shirt privileges must be an effective fund raiser, but why it should support these clinics is beyond me. Funds should not go to such controversial places-what a way to use schoolchildren!
    I am grateful the comments from the former Surgeon General were included, that helped me appreciate the depth of this issue even more.
    And I just have to add my own “That’s Ridiculous!” to the unrelated and unsubstantiated claims:
    * Abortions lead to breast cancer.
    * Abortions lead to infertility.
    * Abortions lead to mental illness.
    I just can’t get over this.

  12. 360 Degrees says:

    I just read ceejay’s blog, as a follow-up to this post. It never ceases to amaze me the causes schools become involved in and the means they use to support said causes.
    This $1 for t-shirt privileges must be an effective fund raiser, but why it should support these clinics is beyond me. Funds should not go to such controversial places-what a way to use schoolchildren!
    I am grateful the comments from the former Surgeon General were included, that helped me appreciate the depth of this issue even more.
    And I just have to add my own “That’s Ridiculous!” to the unrelated and unsubstantiated claims:
    * Abortions lead to breast cancer.
    * Abortions lead to infertility.
    * Abortions lead to mental illness.
    I just can’t get over this.

  13. They should not mislead the people especially women regarding the effect of abortion. And i think it’s the choice of a woman if she wants abortion.

  14. They should not mislead the people especially women regarding the effect of abortion. And i think it’s the choice of a woman if she wants abortion.

  15. Colon says:

    I agree. They shouldn’t mislead women about the effect of abortion…

  16. Colon says:

    I agree. They shouldn’t mislead women about the effect of abortion…

  17. Anyone feeding real lies should be shut down, lies only build more problems. I don’t agree with abortion in most cases but even more I don’t agree with lying to sway someone to my side.

  18. Anyone feeding real lies should be shut down, lies only build more problems. I don’t agree with abortion in most cases but even more I don’t agree with lying to sway someone to my side.

  19. Barb says:

    In my opinion they should not mislead people especially women regarding the effect of abortion, it is very wrong.

  20. Barb says:

    In my opinion they should not mislead people especially women regarding the effect of abortion, it is very wrong.

  21. Daisy says:

    How can you justify telling pregnant desperate women that their getting breastcancer, mental ilness or become infertile from abortion. And how can any intelligent woman actually believe this is true?
    Why do Crisis pregnancy centers believe that abortion is not the solution and what is the solution accoording to them? Bringing an unwanted child into this world or putting it up for adoption maybe?
    These centers seem to have their own dirty little agenda for this and should be closed down.

  22. Daisy says:

    How can you justify telling pregnant desperate women that their getting breastcancer, mental ilness or become infertile from abortion. And how can any intelligent woman actually believe this is true?
    Why do Crisis pregnancy centers believe that abortion is not the solution and what is the solution accoording to them? Bringing an unwanted child into this world or putting it up for adoption maybe?
    These centers seem to have their own dirty little agenda for this and should be closed down.

  23. I think they should give advice, but as to pressuring someone to do something that they don’t want to by giving them wrong information.

  24. I think they should give advice, but as to pressuring someone to do something that they don’t want to by giving them wrong information.

  25. BladeDoc says:

    Preface — I’m pro choice but not a big fan of abortion. That being said multiple therapeutic abortions ARE generally associated with infertility. This is standard teaching in medical textbooks. Now, whether this is because failure to use birth control is associated with STD/PID (which is absolutely a big cause of secondary infertility) or because multiple D&Cs cause scarring in the uterus that make future implantation difficult is (AFAIK) unknown.

    That also being said, if you’re going in for the 3rd abortion or so, you’re unlikely to end up at one of these counseling centers.

  26. BladeDoc says:

    Preface — I’m pro choice but not a big fan of abortion. That being said multiple therapeutic abortions ARE generally associated with infertility. This is standard teaching in medical textbooks. Now, whether this is because failure to use birth control is associated with STD/PID (which is absolutely a big cause of secondary infertility) or because multiple D&Cs cause scarring in the uterus that make future implantation difficult is (AFAIK) unknown.

    That also being said, if you’re going in for the 3rd abortion or so, you’re unlikely to end up at one of these counseling centers.

  27. Rasputin says:

    There actually are quite a few stats that show the incidence of breast-cancer is higher following an abortion. It is related to the high output of progesterone during pregnancy, which comes quickly crashing down after the abortion.

    Would you also support legislation closing down Planned Parenthood clinics that are shown to protect statutory rapists? That is pretty much all of them…

  28. Rasputin says:

    There actually are quite a few stats that show the incidence of breast-cancer is higher following an abortion. It is related to the high output of progesterone during pregnancy, which comes quickly crashing down after the abortion.

    Would you also support legislation closing down Planned Parenthood clinics that are shown to protect statutory rapists? That is pretty much all of them…

  29. ms tree says:

    I actually did research on the mental illness claim for a paper when I was in grad school. Some women who do have abortions report depression later, as well as some who don’t. The common thread? The women who don’t get to go with their first or gut choice or true choice, in other words, who are pushed into either having an abortion or not having one by family, partner, crisis pregnancy center, well meaning friends, etc., are the ones who have mental health issues afterward. Those women who either chose abortion or continuing the pregnancy and who both believed in that choice and who felt supported in it did just fine mental health wise. So, abortion can cause depression if a woman doesn’t really want to have one. If she does, there is no evidence to support an abortion/MI link.

    And as far as the breast cancer link, the risk is also elevated in those who have never been pregnant and those, like me, who have had multiple miscarriages despite wanting the pregnancies. Basically, carrying a pregnancy to full term, especially in earlier adulthood, is a protective factor against breast cancer. For those who don’t or can’t do so, the risk is elevated. But it seems like a stretch to say that breast cancer and abortion are linked.

  30. ms tree says:

    I actually did research on the mental illness claim for a paper when I was in grad school. Some women who do have abortions report depression later, as well as some who don’t. The common thread? The women who don’t get to go with their first or gut choice or true choice, in other words, who are pushed into either having an abortion or not having one by family, partner, crisis pregnancy center, well meaning friends, etc., are the ones who have mental health issues afterward. Those women who either chose abortion or continuing the pregnancy and who both believed in that choice and who felt supported in it did just fine mental health wise. So, abortion can cause depression if a woman doesn’t really want to have one. If she does, there is no evidence to support an abortion/MI link.

    And as far as the breast cancer link, the risk is also elevated in those who have never been pregnant and those, like me, who have had multiple miscarriages despite wanting the pregnancies. Basically, carrying a pregnancy to full term, especially in earlier adulthood, is a protective factor against breast cancer. For those who don’t or can’t do so, the risk is elevated. But it seems like a stretch to say that breast cancer and abortion are linked.

  31. AM says:

    Daisy said: “And how can any intelligent woman actually believe this is true?”

    There’s a big difference between “intelligent” and “informed.” Lots of smart ladies out there simply don’t know much about abortions because it isn’t something they ever expected to need to know about. Or they place much faith and trust in trained medical professionals (as most of us do) and can be easily misled by the wrong practitioner.

    The mental instability mentioned by Jenny probably is more of a consequence of discrimination, fear of reprisal and condemnation, and/or harassment from others. While we may be pro-choice, that doesn’t mean the rest of the world is, and there are plenty of people out there itching for an opportunity to give you a piece of their mind on issues such as this. I’d imagine the social consequences and criticism lead to more mental anguish than the abortion itself in many cases.

  32. AM says:

    Daisy said: “And how can any intelligent woman actually believe this is true?”

    There’s a big difference between “intelligent” and “informed.” Lots of smart ladies out there simply don’t know much about abortions because it isn’t something they ever expected to need to know about. Or they place much faith and trust in trained medical professionals (as most of us do) and can be easily misled by the wrong practitioner.

    The mental instability mentioned by Jenny probably is more of a consequence of discrimination, fear of reprisal and condemnation, and/or harassment from others. While we may be pro-choice, that doesn’t mean the rest of the world is, and there are plenty of people out there itching for an opportunity to give you a piece of their mind on issues such as this. I’d imagine the social consequences and criticism lead to more mental anguish than the abortion itself in many cases.

  33. It is so shameful that so many women have to still face this kind of brainwashing and emotional browbeating today when they choose to have this procedure done. Whta happened to the basic fact that it is their body and their choice? No one, including these so called clinics, seem to remember that. I hate that abortion has become such a political issue- quite frankly I still believe that it still a women’s health issue and that no matter what a woman should have the right to choose no matter who is in office.

  34. It is so shameful that so many women have to still face this kind of brainwashing and emotional browbeating today when they choose to have this procedure done. Whta happened to the basic fact that it is their body and their choice? No one, including these so called clinics, seem to remember that. I hate that abortion has become such a political issue- quite frankly I still believe that it still a women’s health issue and that no matter what a woman should have the right to choose no matter who is in office.

  35. [...] exist in the USA, even more so that they are allowed to lie. So I very much enjoyed Holly Ord’s Crisis Pregnancy Centers Having to Tell People They Lie? Hells Yes! posted at Menstrual [...]

  36. annakat says:

    I had no idea that they were telling such things. I agree they should only tell true factual medical facts. Matter of fact there should be a medical pamphlet that has been approved by the medical association given to the girls. Any clinic that give's any other advise needs to be closed and the personnel prosecuted.

  37. Prenatal says:

    i never knew about that. thanks for the great article. i should do more research on that.

  38. OMG! Abortion is not an option to me, let their be life.

  39. I wish to wish all pregnant women of good mood, easy pregnancy and natural sorts!
    Good luck also are happy! Give birth easily and independently! Let not doctors give birth for you, and you!
    Also adjust itself on chest feeding of the kid! Read the necessary information!
    Be, lovely pregnant mums and expecting posterities of the daddy, are healthy and wise!

  40. novi says:

    give wrong information, especially if it is a deliberate crime. I disappointed to hear it

  41. Yeanny says:

    say no to illegal abortion that can cause harmful to humanity

  42. Claire says:

    it is true that repeated abortions can cause uterine scarring and asherman's syndrome. i have had two abortions and politically are not against them, but because this has become such a political issue, abortion advocates lie too. any kind of d&C, whether for miscarriage or abortion, can cause uterine scarring and lead to infertility. see http://www.ashermans.org.

  43. Pregnancy is a gift for some and a curse for others, I would let the woman choose her own path without interfering. They can advise but not scare pregnant women.

  44. Ameda says:

    In my opinion they should only tell true factual medical facts, who gave them the privileges to play with emotions of a woman.They should be punished.They should not mislead people, it is wrong.

  45. I believe every woman should have the choice of abortion, but I believe they need to know all the facts beforehand. However, I believe they should know the true facts and not have someone scare them out of the choice they want.

  46. I can see where you are coming from, but sometimes people have to make difficult decisions

  47. Betsy Powell says:

    Is it 1957? Whatever happened to privacy? Why is the patient being used to validate that the doctor is following procedures? Crazy.

  48. Betsy Powell says:

    Is it 1957? Whatever happened to privacy? Why is the patient being used to validate that the doctor is following procedures? Crazy.

  49. It is totally wrong and unethical for these people to be giving out fraudulent medical advice! Keep up your good work.

  50. Our government should note this fact and come up with an independent committee to supervise clinics that promote such misleading medical facts

  51. [...] Crisis Pregnancy Centers Having to Tell People They Lie? Hells Yes … – A bill requiring crisis pregnancy centers to report that the information they give to women in not medically accurate is being considered in Maryland. [...]

  52. I cannot help agreeing with ‘Phil the plumbing expert’ (2 years ago)

    “They should not mislead women regarding the effect of abortions”

    And I would like too add that; “fundamentally it's the choice of a woman if she wishes to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. Another question could be; is it better to deal with an unwanted fetus or an unwanted and unloved child?

  53. [...] Crisis Pregnancy Centers Having to Tell People They Lie? Hells Yes … – A bill requiring crisis pregnancy centers to report that the information they give to women in not medically accurate is being considered in Maryland. [...]

  54. Lovepanky says:

    “Abortions lead to breast cancer” I am aghast to know such wrong info is being spread. Such practitioners shouldn't be allowed to practice anymore. Seriously.

  55. It’s true that people should be left to make the decision for themselves. Providing misleading information to get certain outcome is not right.

  56. Monica Harrison writing down all the tips about “Weight to Gain During Pregnancy ” so you will have it much easier. Best wishes always…

  57. Lucia says:

    We are women, not babies, and we deserve ALL the info that’s out there re reproductive health — NOT censored by Big Sister. We have the right to make up our OWN minds about the effects — including POTENTIAL effects — of medical procedures. Abortion is violence done to a woman’s body with medical tools. EVERY intrusive medical procedure — including tonsillectomy — carries inherent short and long-term risks. DON’T INTERFERE WITH OUR RIGHT TO SEE BOTH SIDES OF THE DATA. The practice of Medicine-by-Politics should be OFF LIMITS. Once we’ve seen ALL THE EVIDENCE (yes, including the so-called “anecdotal” data — Back in the day wasn’t that called “old wives’ tales” in order to discredit women’s personal stories and wisdom?) WE WILL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION FOR US. SEX CAUSES PREGNANCY. GET USED TO IT. OUR BODIES ARE POWERFUL AND ABLE TO CREATE LIFE. THEREFORE, MEN, DON’T TRIFLE WITH US. Would you lop off a healthy thumb? Then why would you gauge out a healthy fetus from a healthy uterus? Our fear of our own normal body processes hearkens back to Freud who thought our genitals caused hysteria. WE ARE NOT A DEFECTIVE VERSION OF MEN — I.E. A MAN WITH THE UNFORTUNATE HINDRANCE OF A WOMB. WE ARE STRONG, POWERFUL HEALTHY WOMEN WITH THE POTENTIAL TO BREED LIFE. Therefore, men should admire, respect, and fear our bodies. If men are too weak to go the distance with us, THEY SHOULD KEEP OUT. The boys who pass for men these days should be home jacking off to internet porn, NOT USING OUR BODIES AS AN AID TO MASTURBATION. PREGNANCY IS NOT A DISEASE, AND THE “UNWANTED” FETUS SOCIETY HAS CONVINCED US IS A DANGEROUS PARASITE IS THE FRUIT OF OUR NORMAL BODY PROCESSES. The feminist leaders who spearheaded the Suffrage Movement considered abortion to be a MEN’S agenda. By contrast, the namby-pamby whiny “Sisterhood” that has been coercing us since the 1960′s has, in terms of gender relations, ONLY MANAGED TO MAKE WOMEN AND GIRLS MORE AND MORE AND MORE AVAILABLE TO SATISFY MEN’S WHIMS. TIME FOR US TO WAKE UP — AND GROW UP.

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