After Gay Bashing, Mormon Leaders Call for Civility, Respect and Love
What is wrong with these people? After the most vigorous campaign since the 1970s in an effort to defeat the Equal Rights Amendment, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ Presidency of the Seventy (umm…what?) is calling for members to “heal any rifts” that were caused by the “emotional campaign” to ban same-sex marriage.
Now that California voters have outlawed same-sex marriage, an LDS Church leader called Wednesday for members to heal any rifts caused by the emotional campaign by treating each other with “civility, with respect and with love. “We hope that every one would treat each that way no matter which side of this issue they were on,” said Elder L. Whitney Clayton.”
Yeah, you know, I kind of wish that the-longest-name-for-a-church-on-Earth members would have called to treat the gay community with civility, respect and love before they fought for hate and bigotry. Before they openly participated in gay bashing. Before they said ‘Hey, who you spend your life with is not only our business, but a moral issue that we have to fight against.’ Before they said ‘Sorry, you’re just not as good us.’
As far as I’m concerned, the Mormons can go fuck themselves because that is what they have been telling us to do because we’re a different gender or because we’re a different skin color or because we’re a different nationality or because we’re a different sexual orientation.
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They consider me a second-class citizen, take away my civil right to marry, completely destroying my wedding plans next year, and now they expect me to treat them with love and respect? Fuck. That. Shit. They have no fucking clue what a horrible, heart-breaking, crushing week last week was for me and my partner. There's no way I'm healing anything with the Mormons.
I am outraged… I have been saying forever that all churches against anything that has to do with LOVE is unpure!!! HaShem, Our Lord God King of the Universe is LOVE!!! There is nothing wrong with “Love”, but there is something very wrong with those who falsely show fake love through backsliding christianity. It is not enough that in this states eyes we are the wrong color or gender for same gender, but for the religous rule to actively involve it’s church in such a negative manner when it is still really in it’s infancy stage is just poor business altogether… First the church didn’t allow people of color. Then the church had multiple wives which produced inbred children with fatal developmental disorders of the crucial organs costing billions in transplant surgeries. Utah needs to get wise, not only was this a part of MEXICO before the so called “pioneers” came here and discovered that there were Native Indians occupying these territories, but people of color with beliefs of their own are here to stay. People who love in an entirely different arena are here to stay and they aren’t going anywhere. Wake up Utah!!! How about you keep sending young boys in their sexual prime on mission’s together to explore each other and find true love… I think it’s absolutely brilliant… God Bless Us All…
Ah, the mormons. It's seems pretty damn ironic to me that they would push for marriage being between one man and one woman when they were they great proprietors of polygamy in this country. We have the great state of Utah to thank for them being kicked out of the rest of the country due to their bizarre definition of marriage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_marriage
They're just a bunch of crazy fucking hypocrites who waged a successful battle of ignorance and hate, but ignorance and hate are losing the greater war for equal rights.
Pretty damn easy to be the ones advocating healing when they're not the ones who've been ripped apart.
I don't advocate revenge or spitefulness, but their protestations seem too weak and disingenuous to be considered right now.
Yeah, way to be special, Mormons. Peace and love from the folks you decided were unworthy. Yeah, that'll happen.
I try to remember that not ALL the members of a religion are responsible for what some or even most of the other members do, but damn. This is really hard and really painful and damn if I'm not tempted to go find a Mormon minister and yell at him for being a member of the most douchetastic religion since Catholics.
I just don't understand why these religious followers are so against gay marriage when the divorce rate in the US is 50%. Why aren't they protesting divorces?
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It is ironic that the sign says “we shall overcome H8″ when they are singling out and attacking the Mormon church as the reason this bill passed. That is hateful in itself. Lots of people from different faiths (52.5% of California voters) voted yes on Prop 8 yet the Mormons are being blamed because they are an easy scape goat.
They are being blamed because they got involved on a National measure on television and used the churches monies to support the vote in “California”… Sticking their noses in business that they shouldn’t have… They need to be worrying about the suicide rate of the women in their church who are dealing with their desperate efforts to be subserviant to their unfaithful husbands and also the high rate of meth addictions with their members that are getting sick and tired of the b.s. that is being shoved in their rear ends so deep that they can’t even think straight or breathe right. The LDS church is being singled out here because they singled themselves out when Proposition 8 became an issue at all, it’s public knowledge and if you don’t know that, then look up any U.S. news archives and educate yourself on the issue. The subject is touchy and fresh as soon as the wounds start to heal the Gay, Lesbian, Bi and Transgender communities will be over the heat and back to constructive and positive thinking. It’s just that right now, this pain is too fresh and a person of God only truly understands that.
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That was an intense review for you there. Though, I'm not that concern with your sexual orientation thing but I think the state was just doing it for “normalities” to their civil living as the number of gays or homosexual people are already dominating and quite alarming already.
this is good article for civility,repet and love.i like it.
I'm not sure about the rest of the populace, but I'm quite aware that the Mormons were not the only organised religion involved in the campaign to pass Prop 8. However, the Mormons were the most visible, the most organised, and reportedly poured the most money into the effort. The Mormons are being held accountable because of those reasons, but they are by far not the only ones who acted.
But they are by far the one’s who got the ball rolling, and that’s a fact jack…
As a Mormon in Utah myself…I find it very hard to comment on this post. Please hear me out for two seconds. I agree that Mormons weren't the only ones pushing to pass prop 8, but they were one of the main ones. It wasn't right and it wasn't fair. Right now, I stand on the fence. As a woman, I will some day marry a man, but I do so because I want to, and not because of what my Church dictates. I think the church shouldn't have campaigned to stop gay marriage. They only needed to say that we don't recognize that type of union as a part of our religion and leave it at that.
I, myself, am sorry for all you guys have had to suffer from this bill passing. I'm sorry for your cut wedding plans (Brinstar) and the bad taste this has left in all our mouths. I hope my comment has helped all to realize that all Mormons are not all the same, and we do want people to get along. I have plenty of friends of both genders that are attracted to their same sex and that is perfectly fine with me. In fact, they're some of the best friends that I have.
Monavie,
I am gay, and one of my Mormon friends has expressed the same sentiments to me – that she wishes the church’s position would change and that they hadn’t been involved in Proposition 8. But she still attends church, pays 10% of her income to it, and supports them in every way. She doesn’t like their position on gays, but she doesn’t do anything about it. She says she can’t. Her being sorry doesn’t amount to anything, does it?
If an organization I belonged to was involved in legislation that would destroy HER marriage, I would speak up! I would end my donations to them! I would quit attending their meetings and tell them why! I could never stand idly by and watch anyone do that to a friend of mine. Sometimes I wonder if she is truly my friend.
Monavie,
I hear you loud and clear… I have a girlfriend that is in a bi-racial marriage, when her last son was born her own Bishop told her that her son was damned… Yet she is still hot on fire with the LDS church… You shouldn’t be disappointed with your friend, this life is all she knows, and until she has some real experiences away from the church, it’s the only life she’ll know. And even if she does have some outside experiences, she may still be drawn back to the church… Religious literature has a way of instilling fear in people so deep that they are willing to go against even their better instinct or judgement. It is fear that often drives us. Her world would be just perfect if the church started to allow Gay marriage, like they started to allow people of color into the church, but I don’t think that prophet is going to come around for a long time. All we can do is Hope and Pray for the best within ourselves and in our communities that we form, which is what I am sure your friend is doing. Once people start to get that their is one God and that he only knows LOVE, they will start to recognize the error of their ways.
You are a true person of God, and it’s through people like you that LOVE can overcome it all… Your words are encouraging and inspiring, I just wish and pray that more people would start to think like you. To each their own. Kudos…
Yes they're happy to love everyone, but only when it suits them.
I agree somewhat with your post. First I am Mormon, but I completely disagree with what was said and done about Prop 8. They should not have used their influence to sway the election. But you resorting to hate of the Mormons is only propagating the hate you say the LDS church has done. Hypocritical no? Another thing is you are lumping the Mormons into one category, those of hateful bigots. Is it fair that you lump me in there when I agree with you and oppose what the church has said and done? Prop 8 should not have passed and everyone should have equal rights, but we should not hate when a large group of people screw others over. We do need to have peace and civility but we also need to change what was changed cause a bunch of Mormons.
as a person who leans toward neutrality, i cannot help but comment on the irony of how 'the mormons are the evil, intolerable ones with no respect for others', yet as i read this post and some of the comments, it sounds to me like the anti-prop 8 people are the ones filled with rage and hatred, going around trying to sabatoge businesses and religious buildings. talk about being intolerable…
Lawl mormons. I went to mormania once (aka, Utah)
it was wierd. apparently they believe you get your own planet when you die, so their churches have spheres on top instead of crosses. What pros!
Sometimes people can be idiots. Fuck me if the Mormons expect me to like them after them protesting about same sex marriages! (excuse the language.)
If it wasn't hard enough to come out to my parents. Now i have to like gay bashers?! I don't hate them…i just think they're ignorent and nieve, who are they to say what love is?
What's the problem with marrying someone you love? Love is love and it cannot be defined to just a man and a woman!!!!
People annoy me sometimes
Yes it's as hypocritical as it comes doesn't it. They're happy to bash the gays, but when it suits them it's all sweetness and light.
Yes it's as hypocritical as it comes doesn't it. They're happy to bash the gays, but when it suits them it's all sweetness and light.
I’d love to hear your opinion on other religions as well. Religions are faith-based and obviously bizarre to anyone who doesn’t believe. So, what do you believe? I promise not to laugh.