Pro-Life Extremists Contradicting the Term ‘Pro-Life’–Again
The term “pro-life,” for me anyway, is quite simple. Using such a direct term leads people to believe that pro-lifers are all hooray for life. They think life is rad, that it should be cherished and that everything deserves the right to live their lives. This should mean that all life should be cherished and that all people, animals, rodents, insects and on should be given this right, correct?
Well, not quite. Pro-Lifers are very soon to “stand up” for the rights of fetuses, yet I’m sure that they have killed insects that have begun inhabiting their home, have set mouse traps if they’ve ever encountered a mouse running freely through their kitchen, most eat meat, most also support a war that is killing millions of innocent people who don’t deserve to die, oh yeah, and people who are already alive and living their lives such as women (who have and have not had an abortion,) abortion providers and abortion clinic workers are all told that they either should die, will die “and burn in hell,” or pro-lifers feel that they must do “god’s work” and take them out of the equation completely.
The pro-life agenda is made up of scare tactics, bullying and yes, killing people who they believe are doing work that is wrong and that they don’t approve of. In most cases, conservatives make up the majority of the pro-life population and oddly, as we all know, conservatives are also the big backers of the Iraq war–Where millions of innocent people are dying. Given these facts, as well as also simply being delirious and believing that they are doing “god’s work” by spreading their movement, one quality rings loud and clear–Hypocrisy.
Once again, the pro-life movement’s real agenda is ringing out loud and clear. As more and more coverage is coming out in the media about the anthrax attacks of 2001, it seems that Bruce Ivins, a bio-defense researcher accused by the Department of Justice of being solely responsible for the anthrax attacks, may have been motivated by personal anti-abortion politics.
Former Senator Tom Daschle and Senator Patrick Leahy, both being Catholics who had voted in favor of abortion rights, were sent letters containing anthrax spores. Ivins, as well as his wife Diane, have very deep roots within the pro-life populace. Diane Ivins has served as president of the Frederick County Right to Life and Right to Life of Greater Cincinnati newsletter that criticized Catholic senators who supported abortion rights was found in the Ivins home.
“Anthrax threats had been used against abortion clinics prior to the attacks Ivins is allegedly responsible for. However, after Daschle and Leahy were targeted on September 18 and October 9, 2001 a flood of anthrax hoaxes were mailed to abortion clinics. As of October 16, 2001, over 170 abortion providers in 14 states and the District of Columbia had received threatening letters claiming to contain anthrax.”
The term ‘pro-life,’ while it may make you think of warm, happy, yay for life thoughts, it is simply a group of people who enjoy the hell out of intimidating and scaring people who don’t believe what they do and if they get really angry, they’ll just go out and kill you, which is evident since pro-lifers have bombed buildings and murdered abortion providers “to save the babies.” So say it with me, folks; pro-life does not mean that you get to go out and kill whoever doesn’t agree with you. Pro-life should mean just that, otherwise, these people should really think about renaming their cult group to “Pro-life for the babies, otherwise you’re fucked.”
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I’ve always wanted to know… what’s so great about babies anyway? I mean, of all the life to be pro-, why babies? They’re loud and messy and I notice we’ve got plenty of ‘em around already. It’s not like they’re endagered or anything. So why not animals or refugees or rape victims? Why not end this stupid war that’s taking lives? If you’re going to be an activist, why not try being pro some life that really needs your help?
What’s so damn enthralling about human babies that these guys just gotta shove their heads up some woman’s skirt and take her body away from her without so much as a by-your-leave? I think they’re disturbing- freakin’ panty-sniffers.
Also, I notice none of these fuckers are volunteering to care for the babies they want to force women to have. My opinion: if you don’t have a uterus, you don’t get to be in charge of any. If you do have one, you get to be the boss of your own and that’s it.
*shakes her head* They should call the group “Bombz for Baybeez”; at least be up front about it.
I’ve always wanted to know… what’s so great about babies anyway? I mean, of all the life to be pro-, why babies? They’re loud and messy and I notice we’ve got plenty of ‘em around already. It’s not like they’re endagered or anything. So why not animals or refugees or rape victims? Why not end this stupid war that’s taking lives? If you’re going to be an activist, why not try being pro some life that really needs your help?
What’s so damn enthralling about human babies that these guys just gotta shove their heads up some woman’s skirt and take her body away from her without so much as a by-your-leave? I think they’re disturbing- freakin’ panty-sniffers.
Also, I notice none of these fuckers are volunteering to care for the babies they want to force women to have. My opinion: if you don’t have a uterus, you don’t get to be in charge of any. If you do have one, you get to be the boss of your own and that’s it.
*shakes her head* They should call the group “Bombz for Baybeez”; at least be up front about it.
It can really go either way – I’m sure you’ve met a few pro-choice people who are also active members of PETA…While I see your point, it really bugs me that people think its okay to destroy an innocent baby with a heartbeat but eating an egg (with no heart beat, brain, or other signs of visible “life”) is murder.
There’s a lot of hypocrisy out there on millions of subjects. Last night I watched “downsize this” where Michael Moore’s going out & talking to corporations – yet he still uses their products, rides in a gm car, etc. etc.
It’s hard to be “perfect” in this screwed up world we live in
I totally agree with the article above and your point.
Though I feel it necessary to comment on the PETA thing. I dislike PETA as far as their “methods”, but I am a vegan. A pro-life (not politically) friend asked me once that, because i was vegan and pro-choice, wasn’t that hypocritical.
I almost laughed in her face, she was just setting herself up for a shot down. See, the difference between vegan and pro-life are very clear: we wish to prevent the suffering of living, feeling beings and the second is that we respect a person’s choice not to share in our ideals.
All in all, PETA, while just plain stupid, is still better that anti-choice any day.
I do wish to say that I hate terms like “pro-life” “pro-choice” “anti-choice”. Its for or against abortion.
I am personally for the right for someone to have an abortion, tho only for the reasons that anti-abortion people tend to allow. The difference is I do not believe rape victims, AIDS/cancer victims etc should have to go on trial for making an already difficult choice.
Much like I support welfare programs, but do not support abuse, but do not think welfare should be shut down because it may be abused.
I just want to tell you that eggs and fetuses are not comparable. Fetuses don’t have brains or hearts for a while either.
Eggs are immoral because of the way large farms treat hens, its about giving profit to animal abusers and such. I am no vegetarian, and I don’t support PETA, but I do think I have the moral duty to tell you how it is not contradicting at all.
It can really go either way – I’m sure you’ve met a few pro-choice people who are also active members of PETA…While I see your point, it really bugs me that people think its okay to destroy an innocent baby with a heartbeat but eating an egg (with no heart beat, brain, or other signs of visible “life”) is murder.
There’s a lot of hypocrisy out there on millions of subjects. Last night I watched “downsize this” where Michael Moore’s going out & talking to corporations – yet he still uses their products, rides in a gm car, etc. etc.
It’s hard to be “perfect” in this screwed up world we live in
This blog entry perfectly describes the frustration that both my husband and I have dealt with regarding these so-called Pro-Life idiots. I could go on an on about this issue, but I think this has summed it all up rather nicely! GOOD JOB!
This blog entry perfectly describes the frustration that both my husband and I have dealt with regarding these so-called Pro-Life idiots. I could go on an on about this issue, but I think this has summed it all up rather nicely! GOOD JOB!
Pro-lifers, huh? A group of them set off a bomb at a Planned Parenthood clinic (although THAT location did not even DO abortions), and that clinic was exactly blocks blocks from and on the same street as MY BABY’S DAYCARE. They are so pro-life but they would detonate a bomb five blocks from a daycare!! RIGHT!
I couldn't agree more!
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Millions are not dying in Iraq and the ones that are dying are by the hands of their own people. Ever thought we may be over to protect those people? Thousands of Germans had to die to finally stop Hitler. I wont deny that there are many meaningless deaths that take place come war time, but that fact is many deaths have to take place to stop those whose moral compass is so fucked up they couldnt find their way out of their bathroom. Or do you feel we should have left Hitler alone so he could continue his insanity? You seemed to have had a breif opinion on war, so perhaps instead of complaining you can offer a solution! How should we have stopped Hitler and those that followed him. Tell him to stop killing the Jew? I'm sure that would have worked? How do we stop all the deaths in Iraq? I want your best answer.
I take it you support abortion? I suppose it would have been fine had your parents aborted you? I guess we're all lucky they didnt because you are here today with an opinion on Pro-Life. Do you know that no matter what the G in God is capitalized. Do you know that God himself is against abortion? He's pretty particular about protecting the innocent, the ones that cant make choices for themselves. But I suppose you dont buy into that God stuff because it represents the Good side of things. And FYI people had to day in the Bible times to protect Gods word and what was right. I seem to remember those who died were the ones that opposed life and wanted only evil, slavery in this world. Lets thank God they were eleminated so that Millions could live free lives.
You focus on all the bad things that these so called Pro-Life people have done, but never offerd a solution to those issues. How can we stop the violence and abortion all together? How do we stop the millions of senseless deaths in Iraq? You havent a fucking clue do you? You're one of those special individuals that can sit around all day complaining about something and yet offer no solution to fix any of the problems that this world is faced with. At least some of these Pro-Life people are making an effort to do something which is more than I'm sure you do to support your own causes.
My suggestion to you is to offer something to this world. Offer something to the Pro-Life people, suggest how they may better accomplish their goals without the violence. Can you do that?
To Lemur if you're still around. You were once a baby, cared for even though you would shit everywhere. Perhaps your parents should have aborted you. Yes I think they should have! And some of those babies being protected may just grow up to save your precious animals. Thats one reason we protect them. But so you know and dont think I believe protecting animals, well I do. They can defend themselves against man, much like little babies, so I support protecting all that cant defend themselves. Soooooo, babies and animal, rape victims, they all need to be protected from those who would cause them harm.
I read through many of the comments in this blog, and I must say most off bitch and maon way to much. Offer something good to this country and offer solutions, be it dealing with Pro-life individuals, secretly I know many of you want to hurt them, or saving the lives of everyone and everything.
religion has NO place dictating people’s actions other than the ones that hold their religion. Your religion is personal, It is not mine, it is not the authors, and it is NOT this nation’s, nor the worlds. It is all fine and well if you wish to believe in your own religion.
Before you start bitching, I am pro-abortion rights, but I am anti-abortion. I show my pro-abortion right side more, because the pro-abortion side is the one most threatened by ignorance, and those that do not wish to think beyond fairy tale land.
Rape happens. Disease happens. Complications happen. Fathers leave. some people (like me) have a fear of pregnancy/giving birth (they should use other forms of birth control first, but no form is 100% effective, , Potential mothers lose their jobs (if they have to miss a few days for giving birth, lets assume the alternative is adoption so no time off for raising an infant). some potential mothers have no support. They go through alot. Their child, should it be born, may be born with aids or other diseases which are terminal, giving the child a very short, painful life, which would last much longer than the pain of even late-term abortion (which I am against in almost every case) not to mention the pro-longed suffering of the entire family, rather than just the PTSS which happens commonly with those who have abortions (and just as commonly as those who give birth.)
Life happens, there are tons of ethical reasons someone may choose to have an abortion. There shouldn’t be any laws putting her on trial, for an already difficult choice, except if she chooses late-term abortion, where the brain, heart, and nerves to feel pain have already developed. then she should prove that it would be born in disease that she had no prior knowledge of, or that by giving birth she would lose her job, and that she did not know about it beforehand.
Anyone who preaches against abortion should, at the very least, be forced to find one woman who is going to lose her job by carrying a fetus to term, and care for them. Not only during the pregnancy, but the 18 years until it reaches adulthood.
Fathers that want to force their partner to give birth, should be given suits that give off similar pain to pregnancy to be worn 24/7 until the child is born, and should be forced to not smoke, drink, do any drugs, or any other thing that pregnant women tend to not be allowed to do.
If they refuse, they shouldn’t feel entitled to having a final choice. If they go through, they should have just as much say as the mother.
Simple as that.
I would say that pretty much ALL of their tactics are based upon fear-mongering. And that’s too bad. If they could (would) just adopt a rational method of arriving at sound conclusions, things could be different. But instead, all they do is believe what someone else tells them to believe…
The actions taken by “pro-life” extremists are detestable, and the sorts of people who would bomb an abortion clinic or wish death on their fellow human beings while claiming to be “pro-life” are undeniably hypocritical. I’m certainly not arguing that.
That said, this article seems to completely ignore a too-often ignored segment of the population–and one to which I belong. I would consider myself “pro-life” because I believe in the right to life as one of the most fundamental, if not THE most fundamental right anyone or anything possesses. To use some of the absolute statements presented in the second paragraph, I have absolutely never “killed insects that have begun inhabiting… [my] home”, or “set mouse traps”. The idea is detestable and horrifying. I feel terribly guilty and deeply saddened if I accidentally step on an ant. I don’t “eat meat”, or “support a war that is killing millions of innocent people who don’t deserve to die” (or any war for that matter), and as for “women (who have and have not had an abortion,) abortion providers and abortion clinic workers”, I believe that they have the same rights to respect, free speech, and to live their lives as they please–so long as it doesn’t interfere with someone else’s rights– as anyone else. Of course they do.
But I also believe in the “rights of fetuses”. For me, it seems a natural progression–if the right to life is the most fundamental of all rights, and one person’s rights end where another’s begin, then, simply put, the right to personal choice stops short of choosing to end another being’s life. By the way, I also believe very strongly in the education regarding, and availability of, safe and effective methods of contraception. The best way to end an unwanted pregnancy is to end it in the first place.
I’m not here to debate the question of where person-hood/life begins. That is a compelling debate, but arguing those definitions is not the purpose of this post. I just wanted to point out that not all “pro-life” people act in the ways or hold the beliefs that seem to be assumed in this article, and I wanted to ask a question: If someone like me doesn’t fit the apparent definition of “pro-life”, then what do I call myself?
(I apologize in advance if anything I’ve said has come off as rude or offensive. I’ve tried to read through and avoid that, but we can all make mistakes. So, if there’s a question of which way I meant something, please assume I meant it in a positive and respectful light.)
Pardon me, when I said “The best way to end an unwanted pregnancy is to end it in the first place”, I meant “The best way to end an unwanted pregnancy is to prevent it in the first place.”